The debate about plant-based meat is nothing new, but it's also not dying down anytime soon. A while ago (pre-pandemic), I did an interview with Matt Galloway from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. He is one of my all-time favorite interviewers, and I think the segment that we taped may be the best and most informative conversation I've had about plant-based meat to this point.

If this is a topic that interests you (it deals with the future of our food system, so, in theory, it might), I think it's really worth a listen. At the very least, it's an interesting, fairly entertaining, 20-minute distraction. Not to spoil anything, but here are some of the things that Matt and I cover:

• Impossible Whopper (not my favorite) and the state of veggie burgers.

• If plant-based meat is actually better for health or the environment.

• Whether plant-based meat is driving more people to fast food.

• The absurd marketing ploys behind plant-based "protein."

• What we should be eating instead of meat.

• The case for eating legumes and not messing around with them.

• The obvious problem with flooding our food system with cheap meat.

• How plant-based meat companies are more like Uber than like farms.

• Why we need new food and farm policies.

Matt did an awesome job with the segment, so check it out if you have time. This certainly won't be the last conversation on the subject, so I'll keep you posted. Hang in, cook something great, and I'll see you Friday.

—Mark

MY TAKE ON PLANT-BASED MEAT

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